AZ Congressman O’Halleran Speaks Up for the Heber Wild Horses

Heber Wild Horses Freedom Preservation Alliance, the Citizens Against Equine Slaughter AZ branch have been in contact with Congressman Grijalva and O’Halleran since the situation escalated in mid-January. The Forest Service was on furlough, the Law enforcement person for that area was said to be investigating even though he was on furlough, and the local Navajo County was referring us to the Forest Service. We were so worried not only about the horses but also for people as these shootings were happening near a major road and buildings.

After the Forest Service refused to return calls from CAES and was not collecting evidence or doing necropsies we felt that the investigation was not really being considered a priority as the shootings in October were still unresolved.

Thankfully Congressman O’Halleran has stepped up to the plate for the Heber wild horses, our public lands, and all of you who own these land and wild horses on them.


Please use and send a thank you to Congressman O’Halleran!




Heber Wild Horse Update

Angel makes 12


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Today, while our crews were on the ground early in the day 2 more of the Heber wild horses, were found dead.

Our ground crew has been taking shifts day and night to watch horses, some who are injured, one in particular with a serious wound, but we could not tell if she would recover, or if she had been shot. Today that mare, a beautiful palomino named Angel by our volunteer crew went down.

As the Forest Service personnel were leaving the scene of the other 2 horses where a veterinarian had performed necropsies, our crew flagged them down to have the veterinarian look at this downed horse we had been watching for several days.

At first Ranger Lopez said they didn’t have time to look at another horse and was insistent on leaving the area. The veterinarian traveling with them said it would only take a moment. So they evaluated the mare and determined she had to be euthanized.

Richard Madril of the Forest Service told one of our ground crew members that the injury to the horse we had observed was, in fact, a gunshot wound.

As we are looking at photos and having some of our own experts assist with their opinions we believe all these horses we have been finding the past 10 days were shot in one killing spree that happened late on January 21st.

As of this report, the national office for CAES has received 35 tips on the activities in the forest and the people we believe to be involved in the killings, and other illegal activities in the forest concerning the herd. We are still encouraging the Forest Service Ranger to call the investigative reporter who works for ActivateNow News, and set-up a tip line at the Citizens Against Equine Slaughter national office, so far he has not made contact to find out what we might know to assist his investigation.

The reward fund for information leading to the arrest of the person(s) has grown to over $5,200 dollars and CAES has a goal to double that and find these killers. If you have any information please call 541.315.6650 And if you want to contribute to the reward fund you can use the donate button on the side of this page, or go to our Citizens Against Equine Slaughter on Facebook and look at the top post where there is a donate button.

Through this tragedy, we have had an outpouring of anger and sadness from the Heber and surrounding communities. People are afraid this will go beyond the killing of animals, and they are afraid of these men. But…you are still speaking out, still standing up and we are proud of you for that and will stay in this battle with you until we have Justice for the Heber Herd.


Forest Service and Navajo County Sheriff look the other way while environmental terrorists pick-off our federally protected wild horses in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest in Arizona & endanger the lives of tourists, local residents, and other endangered and native wildlife.

CAES is very sorry to report that another horse from our beloved Heber Wild Horse Herd has been found dead. The mare was seen alive and healthy just two days ago. As we speak our volunteer ground representatives are on the scene and speaking with Forest Service Ranger Lopez and deputies from the Navajo County Sheriff’s Department.


This situation has been ongoing since October when 2 stallions were killed, and most recently with the deaths of a mare and foal in early January, another mare and stallion (leaving an unprotected filly weanling on her own) on January 21 and now this mare within the past 2 days.

The situation was complicated by the shutdown so we provided a tip line phone number (541.315.6650) for people to call in anonymously with information that would lead to the arrest of those responsible for these killings. That tipline provided more than 2 dozen tips and when we did not receive return calls from Ranger Lopez and the sheriff’s department was told the case was now in federal jurisdiction we turned to Congressman Raul Grijalva for assistance, we have filed a report with his office and as asked also shared the initial report to the Phoenix FBI. Since then we have received more information, threats to our persons and now another death. However, we will continue to work with the FBI and would work with Ranger Lopez should he care to call us to gather the information we have on this case.

We understand other wild horse advocate groups are interested in what is happening and may have photographed the Heber wild horses, however, the best thing they can do at this time to help is to contribute to the reward fund or contact our office to see what more they can do. Providing any other information may not be accurate or up-to-date, or complete and that could inadvertently damage the work we have put into this thus far.

Our volunteer team has been on the ground, in the courts, and in the working groups for more than 20 years documenting the horses and working hard to protect them. Please give them the respect they deserve to continue to do their work and protect this beloved herd.

The Forest Service has thus far been complacent in resolving this issue and we are hoping that the information we were able to collect, perhaps because the community members were able to call a number that was not a local number or a local person who would put them in danger for speaking out, will now prompt Forest Service to bring the person(s) accountable to justice.

When the Forest Service chose people to be on the working group to develop a management plan for this herd they refused an advocate who knew the forest and the herd but accepted a man who is now making threats against our board member Val Cecama-Hogsett. We believe Forest Service needs to realize that supporting terrorists is not an appropriate management tool.

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When people are speaking this way we do not know what they are capable of. We are not saying Mr. Joslin shot these horses or was involved, he was on the working group. However when we have threats like this because we are trying to obtain information about the shootings of our wild horses…we have to worry how safe the public is out there. The recent shootings have happened near roads and near buildings. At this time, unless you have to be in the area, we recommend that you stay out of the forest until the shooter(s) are arrested.


If you have information or would like to offer assistance please call our national office at 541.315.6650.

We do, and will, work with anyone. However, we do not work with or support those groups who support mass slaughter or euthanasia as population tools. We also believe the horses need to remain wild in the forest and not removed or culled for any reason. We support proactive management with the least human interference possible. Those tools include predators, which have been a large part of the population control of this herd and the use of PZP birth control vaccines.



They may have information about the brutal killings of 2 Heber Wild Horses.

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These three men were seen in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest, Arizona on January 21st, 2019 just hours before the horses were shot. We think they may have information that could lead to an arrest. The following pictures were taken of the vehicle and wild horses they were with at that time. They told our ground crew they had stopped to remove a halter from one of the wild horses. This was not the band that was shot but was still in the same territory.

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We believe at least one of the men is from Young, Arizona. He frequents the forest and often is towing this empty horse trailer.

If you have any information on who these gentlemen are please contact our office at 541.315.6650. We can keep your name confidential.

We just want to locate these men to see if they have information on the shootings. Someone has to have information and there is a reward being offered for information that leads to the arrest and prosecution of the person(s) that have killed 6 horses since December in this wild herd.

UPDATE~~Yesterday we reported that an entire family band was massacred however since then we have found one orphaned weanling filly. She is spooked but otherwise doing fine. Our volunteers are checking on her, we have placed cameras in various places throughout the area and we will keep you updated.

If you would like to contribute to the reward fund or our costs as we continue to fight for this herd and others throughout the west please use the button below to do so.

Again…any information on these men, or if you recognize the truck and trailer please contact us.


These photos are some of the last taken (Jan.21, 2019) of the stallion and mare killed this week. They were taken the day they were shot, just hours before. We are heartbroken.

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These are the awful photos taken on the following day (Jan 22, 2019)

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Entire Heber Wild Horse Band Killed



CAES has been working for 2 days on a story of a mare and foal that were found deceased. While we were working on that story the news that this stallion pictured above was shot last night.

The Navajo County Sheriff and Forest Service (FS) Law Enforcement were out there to investigate this stallions death today. They told our team on the ground that they are sending their veterinarian to retrieve the bullets from the deceased animal which was shot twice.

These incidents are similar to the horses shot in October, and the killers were not found nor were the bullets retrieved from those 2 stallions. We know that the body of this stallion is not being left unwatched while awaiting the arrival of the veterinarian. Last time the horses were buried before the FS retrieved any evidence.

The mare and foal found a few weeks ago were not found in time to determine the cause of death, but were found in the same location as this stallion and 4 young coyotes that were shot.

These incidents have occurred right off State Route 260 in the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest. It is unclear at this time if we have someone shooting from or toward the highway but we caution anyone who is going to be in the area to be very aware of their surroundings. People who have the ability to kill just for the thrill are known to cross over to killing humans as well.

There is a reward offered for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of the person(s) responsible. And we would like to remind people that killing a wild horse is a federal crime that carries a penalty of $100,000 per horse and/or one year in jail.

Someone has to know something that will help find these perpetrators. If you have any information please call our tip line at 541.315.6650. Your name can be kept anonymous.

Our deepest thanks to Stacey Sanchez for photo evidence and for staying with the newly deceased stallion while we make sure the bullets are retrieved this time. Photos of the earlier incident or mare, foal and coyote are below.

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Public Comment Period on Scoping Process to Use Helicopters in AZ Forests and Wilderness Areas

This time the Forest Service wants to implement the use of helicopters to terrorize bighorn sheep. Another native species under attack because of the livestock industry’s greed and need to control our public lands!


Read the plan here:
Preliminary Environmental Assessment for Authorization of Helicopter Landings in Wilderness – Tonto National Forest, Gila, Maricopa, Pinal, and Yavapai Counties, Arizona

Scoping Letter sent to CAES:

“Dear Interested Party:

The Tonto National Forest proposes to authorize the use of helicopters by the Arizona Game and Fish Department within the Tonto National Forest, including designated wilderness areas, for the purposes of bighorn sheep management. Helicopters would be used to: capture, release, translocate, monitor populations, and conduct research of bighorn sheep within portions of the Tonto National Forest including the Mazatzal, Hells Gate, Four Peaks, Salt River Canyon, and Superstition Wilderness Areas (Figure 1 ). These wilderness areas occur on some portion of all six of the ranger districts within Maricopa, Gila, Yavapai, and Pinal Counties, Arizona. Helicopter operations would be limited to specific days in the month of November beginning November 2014 through potently November 2024. This action is necessary for the Arizona Game and Fish Department to meet bighorn sheep management objectives.


The Arizona Game and Fish Department’s Statewide Action Plan outlines strategies and
conservation actions aimed at promoting partnerships and coordinating efforts among all who hold a stake in conserving Arizona’s wildlife. While the plan addresses the full array of wildlife and habitats, it focuses on identifying and managing the wildlife and habitats that are in the greatest need of conservation. The Statewide Action Plan lists the desert bighorn sheep ( Ovis canadensis Mexicana) as a Species of Greatest Conservation Need. The Forest Service utilizes a list of management indicator species that serves as a barometer for species viability at the forest level. The Tonto National Forest management indicator species list includes desert bighorn sheep.

Bighorn sheep are recognized as an important wildlife resource in Arizona and throughout the rest of their natural range. Establishing and maintaining healthy populations of all subspecies of bighorn sheep is one of the Arizona Game and Fish Department’s statewide bighorn sheep management objectives. To meet those objectives, the Arizona Game and Fish Department depends on gathering information on habitat use and vital rates that determine population dynamics through the placement of very high frequency and global positioning system (GPS) collars on individual sheep, as well as augmenting populations of bighorn sheep and introducing animals into currently unoccupied po1iions of their historic range. These actions may require the use of helicopters in capturing and transport efforts because of steep terrain, extreme seasonal temperatures, and remote locations. On the Tonto National Forest, a substantial po1iion of the bighorn sheep populations occur within designated wilderness areas not accessible by road.

Purpose and Need

The purpose of this project is for the Forest Service to work with the Arizona Game and Fish Department to meet the management objectives for bighorn sheep within the Tonto National Forest. There is a need for the Forest Service to work with the Arizona Game and Fish Department to assist with research and monitoring needs for a Forest level management indicator species as stipulated in the 1985 Tonto National Forest Plan.

Proposed Action

The proposed action for this project only relates to activities occurring within the Tonto National Forest, specifically the Mazatzal, Hells Gate, Four Peaks, Salt River Canyon, and Superstition Wilderness Areas. The Wilderness Act of 1964 prohibits the use of motorized vehicles, motorized equipment, and mechanical transport. Congress acknowledged that there are times when exceptions are allowed to meet the minimum required administration of wilderness areas.

The Tonto National Forest proposes to permit the use of helicopters in designated wilderness areas as identified to further the efforts of bighorn sheep management and research by the Arizona Game and Fish Department. The Arizona Game and Fish Department personnel and authorized contract helicopter personnel would operate and manage all helicopter use for this project. Beginning in November 2014, 20 to 40 bighorn sheep would be captured within the project area; some of which would be fitted with
radio collars and released on site while others would be translocated to the appropriate sites, potentially within state or federal lands. Each November thereafter for up to ten years, capture operations and translocations may occur depending on management needs and population status. Helicopters would be used to safely and quickly access bighorn sheep mortalities and determine locations for capture and subsequent translocation.

The proposed action, more specifically, would involve:

• The use of helicopters in the four wilderness areas to capture bighorn sheep using hand-held net guns. Radio collars would be placed on the sheep or replaced if the collars were non-operational, and the sheep would be released on site. Specifically, these activities would be:

  • Proposed to occur over a 1-3 day period with multiple flights and use of two
  • Proposed for the month of November during weekdays when public recreation
    use is anticipated to be minimal.
  • Based on expected need of7-1 0 sheep captures, there may be 10-20 landings
    during the 1-3 day period. This may occur annually over the next four years.
  • During landings, the minimal ground disturbance would occur; no or minimal
    disturbance to vegetation, including trees and cactus would occur, as these are
    hazards for safe helicopter operations.

• The use of helicopters in wilderness areas to capture bighorn sheep using hand-held net guns. These sheep will be trans-located to approved areas. Specifically, these activities
would be:

  • Proposed to occur over 1-3 day period with multiple flights and up to two
  • Proposed for the month of November during weekdays when public recreation
    use is anticipated to be minimal.
  • Based on the expected need of 30 sheep captured during the first year, there may be 20-
    30 landings (including long-line operations for extraction) during the 1-3 day
    capture period. This may occur annually over the next four years.
  • During landings, the minimal ground disturbance would occur; no or minimal
    disturbance to vegetation, including trees and cactus would occur, as these are
    hazards for safe helicopter operations

Nature of Decision to Be Made

The Tonto National Forest Supervisor is the responsible official and would decide whether to authorize the use of helicopters by the Arizona Game and Fish Department within the Tonto National Forest, including within designated wilderness areas, for the purposes of bighorn sheep management objectives.

The decision would be based on a consideration of the environmental effects of implementing the proposed action or alternatives developed in response to significant issues. The Forest Supervisor may select the proposed action, an alternative analyzed in detail, or a modified proposed action or alternative within the project’s range of alternatives.

Scoping Process

It is important for reviewers to provide their comments at such times and in such manner that they are useful to the agency’s preparation of the environmental assessment. Therefore, comments should be provided prior to the close of the comment period and should clearly articulate the reviewer’s concerns and contentions.

Comments received in response to this solicitation, including names and addresses of those who comment, will become part of the public record for this proposed action. Comments submitted anonymously will be accepted and considered; however, anonymous comments will not provide the Agency with the ability to provide the respondent with subsequent environmental documents.

Scoping Input Needed

To aid in the identification of issues and the development of alternatives, comments need to be received 30 days after the notice in the paper of record, Arizona Capitol Times. When a party submits comments, please keep them specific to this proposal only. Comments which are not specific to the project and project area would be deemed outside the scope of the analysis and would not be considered. If you are including references, citations, or additional information to be considered for this project, please specify exactly how the material relates to the project. Also, indicate exactly what part of the material you would like us to consider (such as the page or figure number).

Send written comments to:
Neil Bosworth, Forest Supervisor
Attn: Bighorn Sheep Population Management Project
23 24 E. McDowell Road
Phoenix, AZ, 85006.

Comments may also be sent via e-mail to comments-southwestern-tonto(@[ or via facsimile to 602-225-5302.

For further information, contact Nate Yorgason, Acting Tonto National Forest Wildlife
Biologist, at 602-225-5213.

Individuals who use telecommunication devices for the deaf (TDD) may call the Federal
Information Relay Service (FIRS) at 1- 800- 877- 8339 between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m., Eastern Time, Monday through Friday”

Preliminary Environmental Assessment for Authorization of Helicopter Landings in Wilderness – Tonto National Forest, Gila, Maricopa, Pinal, and Yavapai Counties, Arizona

A virtual webinar hosted by Arizona Game and Fish Department will take place in January or February 2019 to address questions about this project.  If you would like to be added to the mailing list for this event, please submit an email to, Subject: Bighorn Sheep Webinar.

January Quilt Raffle – CLOSED NOW

Congratulations to Nicole Ziegler on winning this awesome quilt! See you for our next quilt raffle soon!


We are offing the first of 3 quilts to be raffled off for our horses this year. These are gorgeous, soft queen size quilts! Don’t miss your chance at winning one of them.


Tickets are $20 each or 3 for $50. Fill out the form below and make your purchase and we will email you your ticket numbers!!


Mustangs at Kill-pens

Are there really more mustangs (wild horses) at kill pen lots now than in years before?



Mustangs have ALWAYS shipped to slaughter. The thing people do not realize is that 1. once a mustang is adopted, the title of ownership goes to the adopter after a year, many people ship their mustangs off after that year because they were not able to handle them. It takes a very experienced person to handle and tame a wild horse. 2. the majority of wild horses are sold as ‘sale authority’ having been offered for and passed up for adoption 3 times. Sale authority means the horse is sold, a title given right then. 3. once a horses title is given to the owner, right then or after a year, the horse is no longer federally protected and the vast majority go to slaughter.

So why does it seem that so many more are being seen in kill pens now…
– – – The ‘businessmen’ who run the kill pen discovered that there is a huge market in promoting that they have these mustangs…they found out what a large group of advocates mustangs have, and how ridiculously high of a bail price they would pay. So now the plan to rescue mustangs has backfired so badly because of people who bail them from these kill buyers that it has caused them to seek out mustangs! They have ALWAYS shipped to slaughter, but people who bail or buy from a kill pen are causing MORE to be purchased by kill-buyers.

What then is the solution. 1. NEVER buy from a kill pen. Get your horse rescued at auction, or at the BLM adoption events, or go buy one from a holding pen. 2. Fight to end slaughter or shipping to slaughter from this country. (Get the SAFE Act passed) 3. Fight to enforce the protections afforded wild horses in 1971 by forcing BLM and Forest Service to manage our wild horses ‘On the Range’ they have the tools to do it, but refusing to use the tools and claiming they do not work at the same time seems to satisfy a completely ignorant Congress and WE need to remind them who they work for and what WE want.

Fight for ON Range Management and an end to slaughter.

Christmas Miracle is Needed for Monero Mustangs

Please Sponsor a Monero Mustang Today. 48243143_218625292250195_7944448312180998144_n

Citizens Against Equine Slaughter has partnered with many good organizations and sanctuaries for wild and domestic horses. Monero Mustangs is a 501c3 in New Mexico with mustangs that were removed from the Carson National Forest by US Forestry Service. Monero Mustang needs your help to get through the winter with the 36 horses they currently have.

When the Forestry Service started a gather of the horses in the Carson National Forest our sister organization Wild Horse Observers Association was able to step in and stop the helicopters and bring a halt to the gather, but the Forest Service was not required to return the horses they had already gathered.

Monero Mustangs stepped up and rescued the wild horses from going to slaughter. Now, they need us to help get them through the winter with feed and hay bills. This continuing need is something that happens when horses are removed from the wild and have to go to sanctuary to keep their lives. But, if they are going to be in sanctuary Monero is the best of the best, which one 31-year-old gal can tell you!

This is La Vieja (Grandmother) and she sure doesn’t look her age. The great people at Monero are so diligent about the care they provide for these horses and La Vieja is only one of many seniors at the sanctuary.

La Vieja grandmother
The picture was taken December 12, 2018. La Vieja who will be 32 this spring.

To sponsor a Monero Mustang means that you are providing the essential feed and vet care for a specific horse at the sanctuary for only $50 a month. You will receive a certificate with your horse’s photo and you will get updates about your horse and the sanctuary throughout the year.

We suggest that if you cannot afford the whole sponsorship monthly you find a partner, ask another to split the sponsorship with you and just let Monero Mustang know who your partner is so both of you get a certificate for your horse!

At this time of year we all are worried about finances, and getting our family a trinket or 2, but maybe you have a special relative who would love to have a wild mustang sponsored in their name…? Most of all we hope that everyone who supports CAES and our work will strive to sponsor one horse, find 12 people who would each make one month donation and donate the care for that horse for the year…just give Monero and these mustangs that critical help they need to make their holiday season one that they can enjoy not going to bed worried about how they will manage the hay bills next month.

We know our loyal supporters can do this… and because this is our holiday wish we are going to update this post everytime one of the 36 horses has been sponsored for the year! Good luck to all of us and let’s get it done!!

CAES and another non-profit have sponsored the first horse for Monero. Merry Christmas La Vieja, may your 2019 be as wonderful as the past 31 years!


To make your donation go to Paypal and type in and please leave us a comment and tell us your name or the names of all in the group who are sponsoring a Monero mustang for 2019.


You can also find Monero Mustangs on Facebook at


They’ll Come for Your Big Game Species Next: a 2-Year-Old Warning Coming True

In 2016 CAES Board Member Val Cecama-Hogsett Warned That Big Game Species Would be the “next” Targets of the Livestock Industry.


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Bighorn Sheep, public domain photo



It seems by this article “Grand Teton plan would trap or kill goats to help bighorns
by Mead Gruver at the Associated Press on December 04, 2018 that mountain goats are now facing a grim fate because they are the new scapegoats for the livestock industry and the habitat damage and loss for bighorn sheep.

The article states that “The problem, according to the park, is Grand Teton’s 100 or so mountain goats threaten a herd of about 80 bighorn sheep.” The park is approximately 310,000 acres, 485 square miles, hardly too small of a space for less than 200 animals.

As with our wild horses who are blamed for damage done by commercial livestock, these mountain goats will be the next victims of corporate greed.

Photo Courtesy of the National Park Service

The Excuses

From the article you can see the story being built:

1. “The thriving goats spread disease and compete with the bighorns for food.”
However the article lightly glosses over a much more serious threat to bighorn sheep in the United States: “Pneumonia, which also can be carried by herds of domestic sheep in the backcountry, is an especially severe threat for bighorn sheep populations in Wyoming and elsewhere.”
2. “Mountain goats and bighorn sheep are both native to the Rocky Mountain region. Grand Teton’s mountain goats aren’t native to the park, however. They descended from mountain goats introduced southwest of the park in the 1960s and 1970s.”

So, native, but not native because they have migrated, or were a native species of this country moved for hunting and have naturally adapted? Were they ever there? YES, they were and they are not a different species that was historically found there.

This is again the similar argument made against our wild horses. They are native to North American, but if they went extinct for a short period at the end of the Pleistocene Era, and ones that had moved to Europe via the Bering Land Bridge were then brought back to this continent…does that mean they lose their native species?
3. “The goats are reproducing rapidly. Now might be the best time to reduce or eliminate the animals before they’re too numerous to bring under control, according to the Park Service.”

Ah yes, the very familiar ‘breeding like rabbits’ theory to create a myth of overpopulation. What the article does not discuss, which is the same thing we see when the livestock industry screams 60, 70, 80 thousands of wild horses (There has NEVER been an actual census done), is the number of livestock that depend on the habitat, of effect the species of concern.

There are 94 million livestock wandering these lands,  and the damage done to land must be wild horses, the forage eaten and needed for bighorn must have been taken by mountain goats, not because of pneumonia, the habitat loss for sage grouse is wild horses, not livestock or other corporate uses such as mining, roads etc, the destruction of apex predators, because they are a danger to humans….not because they eat corporate livestock profits.
Two years ago Val Cecama-Hogsett, a Citizens Against Equine Slaughter board member and avid wild horse advocate said she was sitting back and looking at a bigger picture. She asked herself “What happens if we can’t save them?” Speaking of the wild horses. The answer was clear to her then and she tried to reach out to other wildlife groups and hunters. She warned, “they will come after your animals next.”
The article seems to be a foreboding example of how the livestock industry is now pitting themselves against the hunters of the west by stating “Unfortunately, state wildlife agencies sell nonnative wildlife viewing opportunities to the public,” Ramey said. “This is not a zoo in the wilderness. It should really be for native wildlife.”
We have to wonder how far the rest of the advocates for wildlife, environment and now even the hunters will allow the livestock industry to continue to run the show, making decisions, designing studies with their bought and paid scientists, educated in corrupt universities funded by the likes of the Koch Brothers, and voted on by “collaborative” good old boy groups all behind closed doors.
The biggest problem for wild horse advocates is that we are the poor cousins of many causes who oppose the livestock industry. But Cecama-Hogsett warns, “waging war with the hunters of this country might be biting off even more than they (the livestock producers in the west) can chew. They might get a backlash they have never seen or expected”